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Monday, November 30th, 2009

Fibromyalgia – Why is it Controversial illness?

Fibromyalgia, also known as FM or FMS, is similar to rheumatism, but is distinguished from other rheumatic conditions like tendinitis or bursitis because the discomfort and stiffness is widespread, while in tendinitis or bursitis the pain is localized to a categorical area. It is characterized by protracted discomfort all over the body with multiple tender points, serious fatigue, sleep Problems, anxiousness and depression and all can be happening at the same time. The precise reason for fibromyalgia isn’t known, and ladies are ten times surer to notice the effects of FM than men.

Fibromyalgia is categorized as either first or secondary. Idiopathic fibromyalgia is another name for the primary form. The secondary form of this debilitating disease is due to several conditions such as cancer, lupus, hypothyroidism, or HIV, as well as any kind of physical trauma.

Fibromyalgia is a major neurological condition that causes discomfort in the musculoskeletal system. A main characteristic of fibromyalgia is an obvious state of fatigue that takes over the entire body. Though the discomfort reported by people with fibromyalgia is present, it happens in-house of unusual brain activity.

Fibromyalgia Controversy

Fibromyalgia is a very debatable disorder among the medical community. Doctors having differing viewpoints about the particular causes and risk factors of the illness. Although the discusses continue upon this matter, a discovery implies that fibromyalgia is in fact a neurological disorder. While some groups of medical scientists theorize that fibromyalgia is actually a purely psychological disorder. These groups say that the symptoms, such as joint rigidity, muscle pain and stiffness, and generalized fatigue, are self-induced.

Other groups believe that the disorder has a clear medical background and its symptoms are of neurological cause. Fibromyalgia is often called a confusing illness. Adding fire to this debate was an article that appeared in the New York Times that recommended that fibromyalgia is not real. This targeted on the small minority of doctors who feel that those diagnosed with FMS are in truth simply very lazy, depressed, or funny. However, research that has been conducted on the disorder has it gaining respect in both the scientific and the lay community as being extraordinarily real. These studies show that not only is it a real illness, but there are drugs that properly treat it. Thanks to the studies, Fibromyalgia is recognized by not only the American College of Rheumatology and the Social Security Administration, but the North American Medical Association also.

One way or another, and controversy or debate aside, fibromyalgia is very real to those who suffer from it. It is unfair to these people to downplay this disease, as many are completely and totally incapacitated from it. They can no longer live normal lives, and luckily in the United States at least, they can now receive compensation from the Social Security Administration. This process can take years though, and during that time lives can be seriously adversely affected by wages lost, among other things.
Hopefully, in time, there will be a cure for them.

35 Responses to “Fibromyalgia – Why is it Controversial illness?”

connie Says:

Not only is it real to those to suffer from it, it is real to the families of people with it.

They, not the govt, carry the burden of support after the person can no longer work. I dont know of ANYONE with this illness who has received ANY financial help after diagnosis via insurance claims or Disability or Social Security.

It may be BECOMING recognised by the medical community, but beyond that tiny shred of hope not much more (hope) has been given to anyone with it.

Carol Bradley Says:

This is a real issue. I have suffered from it many years before there was a name for it. In pain most of the time, just having to bear it. Not sleeping well due to pain. I worked for many years until another major illness disabled me. The one medication that is used for it, helps, but all I want to do is sleep. Can’t stay awake if I wanted to. So I have gone off that medication. Mine started just before puberity. One day I was fine, the next I could not walk for the stiffness. It is a fine line between too much activity and too little. Regular pain medication such as narcotics does not help. Massage, if I can tolerate being touched, helps a lot. Can one imagine even wearing clothes as being painful where they touch the skin? I was first diagnosed with this in my early 20′s by a neurologist. This has been reconfirmed by rheumatology doctors over the years. Sed rate in blood has always been normal. Other inflamination has occured in my eye. I feel that all these attacks are related, and perhaps an immune attack gone crazy. This is not all in my head, either. Went that route,solved the problems of the world, but I still had pain. I guess I could let this depress me, but I have had it so long now, over 50 yrs, it is a part of me. I actually got relief from prednisone, a steroid, but that is not the way to go. And feeling the terrible pain once you go back off the steroid,makes it not worth it. I have had broken bones, crushed muscles,and other causes of pain. This is different!

ann marie dobbs Says:

To whom it may concern: i have FMS and by no means is it in ur head the widespread pain and trigger points that are affected by no means is false.. I suffer severley everyday even with treatment,, the depression that comes along is often due to the pain u are in at all times and the sleep u get is nothing short of a nap. contact me at my e mail address listed above thank u and whoever says it is in ur head should get ur own checked out…. do not mean to be rude or facioius but until u experience this urself pls. dont pass judgement about anyone who is suffering from this disease..

BigTodd Says:

I also dealt with the hellish pain of secondary fm until there was a name for it. Correctly so many of the drs I saw in the beggining as well as my wife tried to convince me it was all in my head and or that I was just seeking pain pills.Finally my nuerologist who was treating my MS whom I had trusted for many many yrs asked me if I was willing to be hypnotized and for things to be found out that way, I agreed and after that and many trips to shrinks I was finally diagnosed as having secondary fm as a result of my MS. It can be a very long painful and upsetting road till you are diagnosed and you recive the meds to deal with it, my advice is do and see every dr you can and hang in there as when you see a dr who actually cares you will get the treatment you need and rightly deserve.

Maggie Says:

You go ladies,,,,,I have it as well and refuse to let it get to me. I was diagnosed as the youngest person (at the time) with Myasthenia Gravis, 40 years ago. MG causes pain aand muscle weakness as well. About 5 years ago, I complained to my neurologist of new aches and pains. He did blood work and said he tested me for FMS. Apparently there are 15 markers for FMS and I had 13. I got into chat rooms and became so depressed on how others were dealing with it. I refuse to let it get to me. I can’t take the standard meds,,,MG patients often take prednosone,,,I refused it back in 79, not wanting to take steroids. I take an old standby called Mestinon. Along with that I use 800 mg of motrin and just keep on moving. You have good days and bad. I found that if I keep on moving, even a little when it is bad, I do feel better in the long run. I run a non profit and try and keep our organic garden up for our clients. One day there will be an answer,,,,,,,,But until then ladies,,,keep on moving and keep speaking out about this debilitating disease.

Sue Says:

I have had fibromyalgia since I was 12. I know it is very real, especially after doctors told me I was a crazy attention starved teen for years before one finally diagnosed me. After every drug of the alphabet for years I had a treatment done by an anasthaeseiologist (spelling there is horrid, sorry) that helps me control it on a day to day basis so I can be a functioning college student (aka:not on narcotics) I stopped all medications they gave me when I realized they were my personal placebos… I knew they didnt work, but I kept taking them in hopes that one day they might. To those of you who are depressed by this disorder I have a few words. I understand that it sucks, I understand that sometimes you cant get out of bed, its embarrassing and demeaning at times. Years ago I realized that there is no point in getting depressed over this, it only makes it worse honestly. I know that somedays you feel worthless and all you wanna do is lay in bed and feel sorry for yourself, but again this does nothing to help. The only thing that helped me through the worst days is remembering that I dont have cancer, I dont have HIV, and I am not going to die from this. Feeling sorry for myself is the last thing I need. Having others feel sorry for me makes me feel worse as there are plenty of people in the world who deserve sympathy more than me. Dont let the depression take you over, and dont let useless doctors bring you down, Keep trying and you will find a lifestyle that works for you (being in bed all day is not an option) My back has been in remission for over a year and I have friends that dont even know I have a back disorder now! Keep trying, and try to stay positive!

cheryl Says:

I just awoke. It takes forever just to want to get out of bed. My shoulders are in so much pain. It burns as if you were forced to carry a 200lb rock for 3 miles. My hands hurt every single day. I don’t sleep well because the burning during the night will awake me. I take antidepressants. Yes, it helps. Because without them you have no desire to want to keep going. It is not in our head. If you touch a person with fibromyalgia in a tender spot you will understand. Please give us respect & understanding. I don’t want sympathy. I want research & help. I want to be heard & understood. It is just as real as any other illness. Many illnesses take research before it can be listed as a “true” illness. So lets get busy. Too many people are suffering.

gary moucha Says:

I’ve had fibromyalgia symptoms, including crushing fatigue, for years which, in my case, were diagnosed as related to Reiter’s Syndrome, an auto-immune diseased which is associated with a postive blood test for the antigen HLA b-27. To Carol, the sufferer who made mention of eye inflammation, I would suggest asking your doctor if or she has checked your HLA b-27 status, since, among other symptoms, HLA b-27 positive is associated with eye inflammations, conjunctivitis and iritis. Four members of my family, two males and two females, are HLA b-27 positive and each of us has inflammatory symtoms, some of which on occasion become acute and have required hospitalizations. The one thing we now know that the four of us share in common is an acute allergy to salmonella, and, of course, an inherited predisposition to this auto-immune problem. Auto-immune models for diseases like fibromyalgia, Reiter’s Sydrome, Guilllaume Barre Syndrome, ankylosing spondilitis, ulcerative colitis, are still (annoyingly!) in rather early research stages. However, I’ve gotten symptomatic relief from a combination of meclofenamate (Meclomen) and gabapentin (Neurontin). The fatigue and depression associated with fibromyalgia are very real and debilitating. Doctors tend to be lazy, like all of us some times. You just need to keep pushing to get a resolution.

dave mason Says:

Fibromyalgia is an affliction of overweight, depressed women who are disenchanted with life and turn to the drugs prescribed for “FMS” (Female Moaning Syndrome.
There are women rotting in their lazyboys stoned on oxycontin because their bleeding heart physician fell for this BS diagnosis. Get up, get moving and quit feeling sorry for yourselves.

Humberto Abon Says:

FMS describes pain and discomfort of a group (or all) of musculoskeletal parts that even can be present as an “-algia” in any disorder, such as in severe common cold or even after an extraneous unusual physical activity. FMS is much a deal of psychological component than a real physical condition (no abnormal auxiliary laboratory test has been found). This diagnosis has come very handy for doctors that cannot deal with patient having a real problem and for what they cannot reach an accurate diagnosis and treatment. Furthermore, to top this medical situation comes the pharmaceutical industry that has formulated the magic pill. Who wins and who losses? Doctors get rid of an anxious patient that keep complaining of a mysterious illness; pharmaceutical companies still engulf their, already, full pockets and the only one who really losses is the patient, who is consuming a medication that may bring more side effects than relief to their illness. Now the patient will focus in the pill’s side effects rather than in his original problem. Patient is cured.

Melissa S Says:

I have it FMS as well, I was diagnosed with it about 4 yrs ago ..2 yrs after a car wreck and the pain just was intolerable nothing would help. I was put through epidurals, phys therapy, meds after meds and nothing helped. Pain meds , phyc meds, muscle relaxants. you name it. After 3 or so yrs I gave up the meds and decided to live med free, I will admit the pain is something I really have a tough time with, I have gone through the SS disability application and denials 2 times and you just give up hope…when you can’t afford the medical bills, medications, lost your job due to injuries in the accident along with the medical benefits you had….tried countless times to work and get hurt everywhere you try to work…you can not hold a job due to this issue, you can not put food on the table, clothes on the kids back, pay the bills, let alone afford to go to a doctor…NOW what?? 39 and have lost my life 6 yrs ago……and everyone in your home lives with it everyday, but it doesnt help the fact that they could have so much more if you were healthy and could earn a living again.
SS administration is BS you have a high school diploma go find a job…HAHA the joke is on me!!
I know where you all are coming from I just hope you are not all in the same boat as I am. Best to you all!!

Mary Counts Says:

It is hard to have FMS, because you look healthy, so people can’t see any reason for you not to be buzzing around the house! They don’t know that if you change a pillow case, your shoulders and neck will hurt bad for a week. They hurt every day, but they will hurt worse. You will sleep with heating pads, and ice packs. Try Well Patches. Try anything to get it to stop. When your husband puts his arm around your shoulder, you jump away from him if he touches one of the tender points. He can’t understand that it would be that tender. I am fortunate. Although he doesn’t understand it, and it has taken many years for him to ‘believe’ that I have something that is this disabling for ‘no reason’. He is a good man, and has helped me. I went thru alot of abuse for years, before I met my current husband and I really think that might have had something to do with it, but, maybe not. I have gone through years of depression. Right now I am on meds that seem to be working well, and I feel so guilty for what I have put my family thru! I worked as long as I could, and tried part time work, but just couldn’t do it. I don’t know where the first woman lives but in some states, they will help some people. The most important thing is to have a doctor that says that they think you cannot work, and should be on it. If you have more than one, it really helps. Some people have to get a lawyer, and go thru alot of paper work, and evidence. Some can walk in, and get approved right then.

Yvonne Says:

I have FMS and Lupus…..and I know for a fact this is not in my HEAD!!!!! The pain is Very real….I was misdiagnosed for both the FMS and the LUPUS for years…and MUSC finally diagnosed it correctly. The person/s saying this is in peoples head, should experience what we experience at least for one week…then they would know!!!!! I would not wish this pain on anyone! It is very hard to describe but IT IS VERY PAINFUL AND HAS RUINED MY LIFE. I took LYRICA for a while and it helped alot, however I gained so much weight that I was miserable due to be over weight! I hasd to choose, pain or being over weight….I chose being over weight…but then GOD touched me and Im not taking any meds now for LUPUS or FMS….and Im excerising regularly. I’m not completely healed YET, but I am able to function now….without meds. I still have pain most days….but its bearable! Thanks be to GOD :)
This disease should be studies more………and we should all pray for a CURE! Just like we would for cancer or any other disease.

Carey D Says:

I have a daughter with very severe FM. She was first diagnosed at 14 yrs of age, however she is now a legal adult. We have been and are STILL very skeptical of the “drugs” they have put her on, and even the ones she is still on. After prescribed pain killers didnt work, and caused problematic side effects (often worse than the disease itself) she told us one day that she had smoked marijuana and it helped her pain. (She was about 17 at the time.) After much consideration (we were teenagers ourselves once upon a time), especially comparing the “side effects” and risks of the prescribed meds to the potential harm (what harm?) of smoking pot… and laying down some safety and ground rules… we conceded to get her legalized in our state for medical marijuana.

The result?? Well, she graduated with honors, and is now a pre-med student at a major university. And, the medical marijuana has allowed her to manage her pain without losing her ability to live life. There are many resources concerning Fibromyalgia patients and medical marijuana. Look it up.

Forrest Scott Says:

Probably neurological and hereditary too.
My Dad developed it before there was even a name for.
A few years ago I was diagnosed.

Interestingly, Dad, his Mom, and now I, have Neuropathy, albeit different forms. And my Aunt, Dad’s sister, was diagnosed with MS about a decade back.

Something is neurologically wrong in this family and seems it might be passed on genetically.

Philly Jo Says:

I developed this horrilbe disease(yes,it’s a real disease!) after going into adrenal shock after hystorectomy surgery in 04′.A 24 hour hospital stay turned into a 5 day ordeal and I have not been the same since-I lost my job and was labeled lazy,a hypocondriac and just plain crazy.So called friends deserted me,and my family was frustrated.All the stress just makes the pain worse and flares more intense.Sleep is impossible,waking from pain,sweating and restless arms and legs and gastro issues from IBS- I feel like a zombie and am a emotional wreck most of the time.I’ve gone from a social butterfly to a hermit.
I didn’t think Lyrica was helping till I went off it to try the new drug Savella…which was of no help to me.
So this is my life-everyday just trying to be productive in some way for my elderly mother and my first grandchild.Small victories…I was awarded social security disability on my first try so at least I have something to live on as my savings are gone…now to try and keep my COBRA health ins till I can get Medicare or Medicaid.I never expected to have to struggle like this at this point in my life-I have worked hard and taken care of myself my whole life-this is very humbling.God bless all of you who deal with this-you are not alone!

Bob Says:

Actually Fibromyalgia is quite treatable and is cured rather quickly. The reason that the rather simple cure is not well known is that if it were, it would have a significant impact to drug company profits. Indeed, Fibromyalgia is only one manifestation of what I call “Serotonin deficiency condition.” Serotonin is one of the two neurotransmitters that are the main cause of this disease. The other neurotransmitter is dopamine. For most of the ladies that have FM, they also have an issue in the adrenal hormone system that is easily fixed as well.

The cure for FM is known in the medical community and there are physicians that are trained by one medical school that claim a 100% success rate in curing this disease. As of yet, they do not seem to have realized that FM is only one small manifestation of the condition, but at least it is a start.

This situation has angered me to a point where I am in the process of writing a book that will go into detail all of the ramifications of this condition. In the mean time, should a reader of this reply want to have help in solving their problem with FM, feel free to write me at rfrenchwts@aol.com. I would only ask that I be able to include a brief description of your condition and subsequent cure in my book.

Keith Says:

I am a male and have gotten the Doctor run around for years. Told that I am depressed, I try to tell them if I am depressed it is because of the pain. It is simply a vicious circle,run around.

This is very real, and is not a mental issue.

Louanne Peterman Says:

Yes! Despite the non-believers, this illness DOES exist and DOES affect not only the patient, but also her/his family, friends and other social relationships. I am so fortunate to have a spouse who is a caring, responsive individual, and both family and close friends who understand when I must cancel family gatherings, meetings and other scheduled events due to the tremendous fatigue that accompanies my Fibromyalgia. Trying to lead a semblance of a “normal” life can be difficult to the extreme.

I have lately found that a personalized set of vitamins, etc., suggested by Dr. Andrew Weil on his website, have been helpful in giving me some extra strength to move about and somewhat combat the fatigue. Movement (also encouraged as “exercise”)is a definite answer to feeling better. However, until the tremendous fatigue is addressed, even simple movement such as dressing, using the bathroom, fixing one’s own meals, etc., can be very wearing. My primary care physician kept talking about my having Fibromyalgia, and I kept disagreeing, even though my days were filled with pain and extreme weariness. After several years of this “back and forth” discussion, researching the disease and visits to a neurologist, I had to admit that my PCP was correct!

So, for those who do not feel that Fibromyalgia exists, and/or does not adversely affect individuals, I hope you or a loved one never fall victim to this disease! For the disservice you give to those of us who now suffer will come back to haunt you in more ways than you can now imagine!

Elizabeth Trogdon Says:

I was diagnosed with FM in 1995, and was approved for Disability through Social Security in 1997. It is possible to get on SS with it, but you need impeccable proof, a doctor totally on your side and an adept lawyer. It didn’t hurt my case that I was diagnosed at the VA (I’m a veteran) and had only just relocated halfway across the country for my job. They are looking for proof that you are ill AND that you want to work.
GOOD LUCK TO ALL WITH THIS AWFUL DISEASE!

Sher Says:

I have suffered for the past seven years with this and it has not only hurt me, but my family as well, because when it hits I can’t do all the things I normally do in a day. It is not in my head, and it hurts me to hear that these so called doctors are saying that we are lazy, depressed, funny or it is self-induced. I was always active, and on the go, and I still try to be as much as possible. My symptoms come and go. I have my good days and I have my extremely bad days where I can barely move, all I want to do is sleep, it hurts if someone touches me, or to move, but on my good days which I thank God for I’m back up and running. It is very depressing when you are a very active person and have been all your life, and you go to sleep at night thinking about all the things you want to accomplish the next day, and you wake up the very next morning feeling like you were run over by a mack truck a few times. I have cried many days wishing I could feel like myself again. I could go a few weeks feeling like I’m back to normal and then boom it hits me like a ton of bricks. Nothing changed in my life, no bad experiences to make me self-induce these symptoms. I always look at the brighter side and never think about feeling like this again. In fact like all the rest of you, all I want is to be able to keep going and living my life just like I do on my good days. I wish they could feel what we feel for one day then maybe they wouldn’t say all those terrible things about us. We keep pushing through hoping that the doctors we see will take us seriously, and that tomorrow will be a good day for us. Who would want to feel like this? They will say sympathy. Well, I don’t tell anyone, so there is no sympathy. My immediate family knows when I’m having a bad days because of the way I move, or because I want to just sleep, but there is no sympathy because I still have to keep going, and get what I can done.

To All That Have This Whether Mild Or Severe Know You Are Not Alone, and God Willing Tomorrow Will Be A Good Day For Us All!

Zeke Says:

Fibromyalgia is not an illness. It is a syndrome; a loosely coordinated cluster of symptoms often found in the depressed. This is not to say the symptoms aren’t real and the sufferers have it all in their heads. The pain, the fatigue, etc is all very real and can be ver debilitating.

This article is obviously biased as are many now in our new PC version of research. Having studied fibromyalgia myself for several years I know this syndrome is most often linked to depression, dysphoria and/or anxiety. I have yet to find it in anyone who was not enduring some level of emotional pain for at least sometime proceeding the symptoms.

There is no definitive disease origin or physical causal agent. Any real scientist or doctor will tell you this at least privately, publicly they dare not because of the PC climate out there nor do they wish to offend patients whose suffering is very real, even if their understood cause for it is not. Cognitive Behavioral Therapy works wonders and is the only treatment of choice for those patients for whom one can reach. Getting folks to change their way of thinking leads to new behavior patterns and more physical activity. As mood improves and the body grows stronger and more flexible gradually, profound changes will be seen in both mood and physical health. It is a gratifying thing to see…really almost a miracle….again, this is not that people are not really suffering,it is saying they are suffering for another very real reason and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy along with physical rehab/training/fitness is what benefits so greatly. Good luck to all out there. Believe me, I know about pain. I am a chronic pain sufferer myself, from having been struck down and run over by a streetcar and nearly killled. This is what inspired me to study pain and chronic pain syndromes.

Jim Says:

While I do not have fibromyalgia, I do share some of the same anger at physicians who do not understand your pain. I have Chronic Myofascial Pain, formerly myofascial pain syndrome. I had a very good Physical Medicine doctor who recognized and understood the pain I experience. She provided me with more than medications, injections, etc, to relieve the pain. Her support and recognition of the problem gave me confidence that she was sympathetic and believed me when I said I was in pain. While I am happy that she was able to take an early retirement, I do miss my appointments with her. I urge everyone who suffers from fibromyalgia to seek help from a physical medicine physician, they are more likely than either a GP or Orthopaedics doctor to have up to date knowledge about your condition. Good luck to all.

Berth Says:

I developed FMS in my late 40′to mid-50′s. I was on medication for about a year. I sought an alternative treatment because I read that the medication I was taking weakens the heart valves. I stopped taking the medication and started taking a supplement from the makers of MDR vitamins,specifically targeted for persons with FMS. I would say that I am now pain free and have been for years. I sometimes get some minor ailment, but I have fully regained my strength and mobility. I can’t guarantee this will work for you, but it did work for me. I believe the website is http://www.MDR.com. This might be an option for some of you to pursue.

MJ Says:

Having FMS/CFS for 22 yrs. I tried numerous treatments, and the ability to continue working. One product was ephedra, shortly after it was banned in the USA, I had to go part-time, that lasted about 10 yrs. I had to have a attorny to get Disability from the SSA.

After ALOT of stressfull life changes, I lost my family due to this FMS/CFS and other limiting condition’s, yet what makes me different: The Judge, and my first attorny’s belief and or opinion about FMS/CFS became apparent at the PDL, I wasn’t awarded any support, still being denied after 3 yrs any financial help from my husband that mades 6 figures, 5 times my income, I need not tell any of you, how any emotional, physicial, financial or any stress magnifies the physicial, mental, and all the symptoms of all the syndromes.

As if living with a non- believing spouse these 22 yrs, putting up/ shutting up untill I came to believe the only way to get nbetter was to quite taking care of others, and make drastic life style changes.

Not only did my spouse refuse to help me, but he started to stayout all nite.

That and other acts of his, made me decide I’d be better w/o him. I was willing to take the finacial hit, yet not to the extent the courts action and lack of action’s have induced needlessly, especially I’m still waiting after 3 years.

I truly believe it’s all due to the one diagnosis being FMS/CFS.

Instead of decreasing the stress levels, and working towards the changes I planned and hoped would make major improvments,
I”M BEING SUBJECTED TO ADDITIONAL LONG TERM, AND UNJUST treament as if I’m guilty of a Federal crime.

I consulted 3 attornies, they ALL gave me the same support and settlement scenerio. Per their experience and what the law allows. Obviously Except people with FMS/CFS because the courts I filed with, does not believe it exsists and it means JUST CRAZY.

Does a county judge over rule the federal social security system? I think not!

SANDY Says:

I have FM and believe me; it is real. All too real when the pain is never ending and the fatigue knocks me out.
It took doctors many years to finally diagnose this condition. For years, I was told I was depressed blah blah blah…Thank goodness I have a doctor that understands my pain and all the associated symptoms that occur with this terrible pain disorder. I do the best I can and realize my limits now. I also have an understanding husband who feels compassion for me when I sleep for 18 hours straight. It is true that family and friends really can’t understand this disease when I look
fine. I continue my activities; but no longer can do many things I used to do; I try to be active; but accept there will be days when nothing will get done by me.
Trying to sleep with pain shooting down my legs is almost impossible. Just turning over in bed some nights is agony for me. So don’t tell me I don’t have a real
disorder and it’s all in my head. Try and live in my body for a day and I know you will change your tune.

Aw Says:

PATHETIC! JUST PATHETIC! I have Fibromyalgia and I find it pathetic how the average person will believe any lie they are told. First of all, Fibromyalgia is NOT neurological. All the quacks out there who say that it is neurological, what they really are saying is that it is all in your head. Neurological is just a fancy name for brushing us off as lazy and unwilling to work. “And ladies are ten times surer to notice it than men”? What a sexist statement! BOTH women and men get Fibromyalgia, but the largest population of Fibromyalgia victims are women. The men who get Fibromyalgia suffer as much as the women and to make that offensive comment just only suggests that women are weaker and inferior to the man. Concerning the subject of depression, Fibromyalgia does NOT cause depression. Depression results from prescriptions, unmanageble pain and lack of support from family, friends, caregivers, doctors, and society. There are MEN and women who have fibromyalgia and never suffer from depression because they have a supportive environment and have found ways to manage the pain without drugs, without mental health, without voodoo nor witchcraft (I am not making this up). I have Fibromyalgia and I do not have to become a “mental health junkie” nor a “prescription junkie” to be free from pain. I do NOT take any of those drugs that are being pushed on us by the pharmaceutical companies. I have seen almost every day since 2004 other Fibromyalgia victims who take “those drugs” and they can’t stay awake, their worse off in that their in “la-la land”, they can not do basic things like bathing, dressing, feeding themselves, even read a storybook to their child (ren), they suffer from severe catastrophic depression, they are addicted to prescription drugs so that they can never come off the drug, or if they do, they have to go to a drug abuse treatment facility. They have to have nurses come in to take care of them, feed them, bathe them, transfer them, toilet them, etc. Others who are not fortunate to have home care, find that they are on their way to a nursing home. Fibromyalgia is the degeneration of the muscles. That is why you find yourself getting weaker, your tired all the time, your muscles ache. When I go to the doctor and he tells me about a “new medicine” for Fibromyalgia pain, I tell the doctor to give me a complete printout of “this new miracle drug”. It is usually thirty pages long about this medicine and one page will be about what the medicine is and the other 29 pages will be about the catastrophic side effects on the user. I always tell the doctor “NO THANKS!” One medicine causes strokes and schizophrenia. Another medicine causes suicide, and it goes on and on and on. I do not let this disease rule my life, because the day I let it take control, that will be the day I start making careless, haphazzard decisions that are based on silly people who have no clue about this disease, and they decide on what is best for me?!! I DON’T THINK SO!

Philly Jo Says:

TO THE”DR ONLINE’S” OUT THERE-THANK YOU FOR YOUR CLININCAL EXPLANATION OF FIBRO BEING A DEGENERATION OF THE MUSCLES OR A SYNDROME!!HOW, IF I WAS A VERY ACTIVE PERSON,WITH A 40 HR A WEEK JOB,AN ELDERLY MOTHER TO CARE FOR AND A NEW GRANDCHILD TO ENJOY DID MY MUSCLES BECOME DEGENERATED OVERNITE??SURGERY AND OR ANESTESIA WAS THE TRIGGER FOR ME.I WOULD GLADLY LIVE WITH THE PAIN THAT CAUSED ME TO HAVE HAD THE SURGERY,BELIVE ME!
I SHOULD KNOW BETTER THAN TO INVOLVE MYSELF IN ANY ONLINE DISCUSSIONS AS THERE ARE ALWAYS KNOW IT ALLS WHO DISPARAGE THOSE WHO ONLY WISH TO SHARE THEIR STORY-NOT BE DIAGNOSED BY A STRANGER.
I AM AN INTELLIGENT PERSON DISPITE MY PAIN AND DO NOT LET ANYONE MAKE ANY DECIONS FOR ME.I HAVE TRIED SEVERAL PRESCRIPTION MEDICATIONS AS WELL AS VITAMIN/SUPPLEMENT PROTOCALS SUGGESTED.I GIVE THEM A CHANCE AND IF THEY DON’T HELP, I MOVE ON.I HAVE LEARNED LIKE EVERONE, I WILL HAVE GOOD DAYS AND BAD- AND TRY AND MAKE THE BEST OF BOTH.THIS HAPPENS TO BE A BAD ONE -COULD YA TELL???
GOOD LUCK TO ALL OF YOU WHO HAVE THIS-NO MATTTER THE CAUSE.

Nichelle Says:

Zeke wrote:

“There is no definitive disease origin or physical causal agent. Any real scientist or doctor will tell you this at least privately, publicly they dare not because of the PC climate out there nor do they wish to offend patients whose suffering is very real, even if their understood cause for it is not.”

Zeke, if you were a REAL doctor, like you are trying to hint you’d know that even IF Fibromyalgia is linked to anxiety & dysphoria (which IS basically “depression”) it would NOT prove that FM is psychosymatic! Since ALMOST ALL autoimmune disorders are ALSO associated with anxiety and/or depression.

Multiple Sclerosis, Systemic Lupus Erythematosus, Myasthenia Gravis, Chronic Fatigue, Altzheimers, Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (Lou Gehrig’s), Chronic Neuropathy, Parkinson’s, Multifocal Polyneuropathy, Balo’s Concentric Sclerosis, Progressive Systemic Scleroderma etc.,etc.,etc.,

…are ALL autoimmune disorders often associated with depression and/or anxiety and NOT ONE OF THEM has a known “definitive disease origin or physical causal agent”. In fact, very few autoimmune disorders have a known cause or even a definitive

Plus you only ‘think’ you know pain because you know physical pain. I’m not trying to belittle your accident, or achievements since. However, I experience both, severe physical and nerve pain and you have no idea what pain is until you experience severe nerve pain. I occasionally experience Trigeminal Neuralgia pain so extreme it’s also known as the ‘Suicide Symptom’ for me it comes & goes, but is so much worse than physical pain could ever be doesn’t compare to nerve pain. No pain killer can even begin to take the edge off it…and it makes me literally want to die!

This is the same type of pain FM causes and I was in top shape mentally & physically when it started! I’d just graduated from college and gone whitewater rafting, backpacking & camping for a couple weeks, the week I returned WHAM! neuropathic pain. So sell your CBT theory to someone else somewhere else.

dave Says:

Dave Mason, In reference to your remarks above; shame on you.
These people have serious issues and it should not be taken lightly. Unless you felt the pain you will never know.

The website below will answer your Fibromyalgia questions with inexpensive healthy solutions. I have nothing to do with the site. I have found their solutions have worked with several people that I know. Good luck in your quest to be pain free.
Also stay away from sugars, high frutose corn syrup< especially if you like you liver, color food dyes (especially caramel coloring), aspartame, MSG, and simple carbohydrates (pastry and such). Hot Epson salt baths are also wonderful for body aches and pain.
Notice that Epson salt's key ingredient is "magnesium".
http://www.healingwithnutrition.com/fdisease/fibromyalgia/magnesiumstudy.html
Yvonne: you had also mentioned that you have Lupus. Lupus is an immune deficiency disease. Work on building up your body's immune system. Diet, nutients and staying away from the items I mentioned above should help. Remember, that just a teaspoon of sugar will shut the immune sytem of an adult for up to six hours. Good luck.

Ihave it Says:

I’ve had fibro for 5 years and I take a great deal of medication to keep it in check.

I hate how the medical community quickly dismisses it. You’re depressed, you’re lazy, etc,etc. I heard all the stories, like it doesn’t exist. I hate to say this but I wish one of these idiot doctors could walk in our shoes. I’m a believer in the fact that fibromyalgia does have a neurological component. To put it in a condensed version, the pain started in the back of my head and went down my spine, then it turned into burning hot pain everywhere no sleep, brainfog etc. I was lucky to find a doctor who tried different meds and for the most part my fibro is in control.
I get flares out of the blue and I’ll have to go home or pop a few neurontin.

This syndrome, disease, or whatever they call it exists and many are debilitated by it. I have a very close friend who is completely disabled from it. I pray for a cure.

Sharon Says:

It would even be bearable if I could say, yes, doing this and this and this will cause the pain. But you go from, literally, a happy, pain free day to waking up in the night with pain so bad that you can’t walk; with pain so bad that you vomit…I have too much to do to be incapacitated. I hate calling out of work; “I can’t come in today, I can’t walk”, when I was fine the day before. I hate that I have to have a DOCTOR’S NOTE saying that some days I can’t bear the touch of a belt, it’s not noncompliance. I hate being in so much pain that my co workers call me “hop along” (thats gimpy to you!) – not that I mind what they say, I mind that it is taking away from my performance that much.

Physical Therapy said not to come back, they can’t help me. My primary care Docs know what is wrong, but they also tell me that I am beyond the care of a GP. The ER docs have my file, they know why I come in, and they are a little ashamed that all they can do is give me an injection to calm the spasm some. Not stop it.

My pain management doc says; ‘Don’t bend forward, it makes it worse. Don’t do yardwork, especially”. Yes, it does. But pretty much all of what a person does during the day involved bending and lifting. You cary laundry, you bathe, you clean the house, you vaccuum (guaranteed ER visit), you care for kids and pets, you cook…When you are the only one who does all those things, you can’t just stop. So you learn to do them when someone is home to take you to the ER afterwords.

Aw Says:

Zeke love,
Take a vacation. You may have been run over by a streetcar, but we were not! So don’t try to equate our disease to your streetcar. As a matter of fact your suggestion is insanity. I hope you do not show up on any other website with your insane ideas. Just take a vacation. You also might try ceasing from reading all those “fantasy novels” that seem to be telling you all your bizarre ideas. Not everything you read in a book is true, especially if it was written by some clown (MD, pharmaceutical company, therapist, etc.) who has never experienced this disease and can’t even tell you what causes it, but at the same time, they are the professionals? What a laugh. Enjoy your vacation Zeke, I know I will.

Aw Says:

Zeke love,
I almost forgot, take Dave Mason with you on vacation. He needs a vacation as bad as you. You boys enjoy your permanent vacation, and please do NOT send us a postcard!

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