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Tuesday, December 8th, 2009

How Beneficial is Our Social Security System after Retirement?

When the US first introduced the Social Security system back in 1935 it was a subject of much controversy. It was also a very different program than the social security system that is in place today.

Originally Social Security did not cover many professions agricultural labor, domestic service, government employees, and many teachers, nurses, hospital employees, librarians, and social workers were just some of the workers excluded, and as these were jobs held mainly by women or those of races other than white the discrimination involved with the Social Security act were obvious to many.  It would not be until 1954 before all of these professions were covered.

These days anyone who has paid in enough in social security payroll taxes will receive social security benefits when they reach retirement age. What that official retirement age is depends upon the year of an individual’s birth. It is possible to begin receiving partial social security benefits before one’s official retirement age and those who choose to carry on working beyond that date are eligible for continue employment credits that will increase the size of their eventual monthly payment until the age of 70.

Social security disability is a different kind of benefit and is technically available to any worker who has paid in the minimum amount social security payroll taxes five months after they have become “disabled” by way of an illness or injury and are likely not to be able to return to work. Obtaining such benefits is not at all easy though. Although the figure varies from state to state on average there is a 60-70% denial rate of initial claims.

There is a lot of talk about the current financial health of the social security system and whether or not benefits will be available to those young people working today when it comes time for them to retire, as the system now pays out more than it takes in. There are those who would like to see the privatization of the social security system, an idea which is very controversial.

Others would like to see social security benefits be reduced for those who are wealthy. Currently everybody receives benefits according to the number of years they worked and some feel that wealthier seniors should take a cut in benefits for the greater good. They argue though that their level of input while working was higher so they have already done their part.

15 Responses to “How Beneficial is Our Social Security System after Retirement?”

Kea Says:

I would be dead in the water without Social Security. It accounts for about 3/4 of my income. I never thought I’d live this long, so I saved very little for “old age”. Regrets, I have a few, but then again, too few to mention! Fortunately, I was born just before the post WWII baby boom, so I might get a few bucks before the system collapses. Then, I don’t know what will happen, but it probably won’t be pretty! I am naturally all for reducing benefits for the wealthy, but if I were one of the few who had worked hard and prudently saved or invested my money, would I feel the same way? Probably not!

Dave Says:

The social security system should definitely be privatized. In fact, most government agencies should be privatized. Our country can no longer afford big government

Thelma Ruth Black Says:

I am a recent widow. Because I receive a Federal retirement pension, I am not eligible for spousal benefits on my husband’s Social Security. This is because of the Government Pension Offset (GPO). He paid into SS many years.
Because women’s pensions are usually lower than other recipients, there should be a reasonalbe retirement limit. As it stands, it does not allow widows to live with dignity even though their spouses faithfully contributed to SS.

It is heartbreaking to read that SS is giving benefits to people who never even worked in this country.

BOOWAH Says:

That last arguement is completely and totally invalid. The wealthy absolutely did not pay their fair share into Social Security. Because there is a limit on earnings that Social Security tax applies to, most if not all of the wealthy paid only 1/100 of 1% of their gross earnings into it while I and many like me paid 2 or 3%

Bob Says:

I am 60 and permanently disabled. That said,I have been disabled for the last 29 years.I filed for Social Security at 58.

SS has a lot of flaws starting with Medicare. The medical insurance lobbyists talked our legislature into COBRA for the insurance industry not the citizens. When I stopped working I had only one option .This was to sign up for COBRA. I tried to obtain private coverage but was denied due to a pre existing condition.So, I pay through the nose $21,000.00 a year for me and my wife.The way COBRA works is that when the time expires.(in Ca it was 18 months and now has been extended to 36 months.)You ask how Social Security plays into this? Well first I can’t get Medicare for 2 years after receiving SS. The insurance companies must insure me when the COBRA runs out,though.Every way you slice it the Insurance companies lobbyists have lined the legislature pockets with cash AND we get this treatment.

Bob Says:

Most of us don’t know this but there are benefits beyond retirement income. When you apply SS asks if you are poor. If so, you don’t have to be 65 or a US citizen to get benefits.As a matter of fact you can collect as soon as you land from a foreign country. Many get double benefits by lying about living with their spouse. They use 2 addresses.They each apply and are granted a check each.

Think this is a good use for our SS payments? There is no other country in the World that does this.

Bob Says:

I have had many surgeries over the last 29 years. Once when I was waiting in the admitting office i saw a brochure from SS. It said that if you are permanently disabled you may qualify with help with your medical bills.

After getting home I called and SS said i should come to their office.

I did .They said I had to quit my job in order to collect! I continued to pay in and went back t work.

Gary Says:

For years Dems have called regressive programs progresive and gotten away with it.
They would have us think that it is the natural way of things for those THEY consider wealthy, to pay more than they do, or more directly just give them something for nothing.

Now that we have the top 5 or 10 percent of earners paying most of the taxes, you would think they might stop. But they will not stop it seems, until thier entire lot in life is free.

If some of these “Thinkers” would get off thier socialist butts and try really working for a living, they to could get screwed over by lifes loafers.

Mr. Hill Says:

The condition and inherent unfairness of Social Security not withstanding, after reading this post, and many posted before it, the downward spiral of intelligent, gramatically correct writing continues. Does anybody use any other punctuation mark besides periods?

dale coberly Says:

ss is not paying out more than it is taking in. because the boomers prepaid a lot of their retirement costs, there is a huge bank account full of social security money. some of that money is being used now to bridge the recession… the original purpose of the Trust Fund. Social Security can pay for itself with no changes until about 2037. After that if the next generation is living longer than the last, premiums (the payroll tax) might need to go up… about twenty cents per week per year while incomes are going up ten dollars per week per year. in other words there is nothing at all wrong with Social Security, and there never will be.

of course “the rich” should be able to collect Social Security. they paid for their benefits just like everyone else. Social Security is not welfare.

trouble is most of what you have heard about social security for the past twenty or more years has been essentially lies by Peterson foundation and Cato foundation, repeated by a press that does not have the ability or motivation to analyze the numbers, or even understand the basic facts about Social Security.

M. Hamilton Says:

Even though my husband receives a SS benefit, reduced by not being vested for 30 years and being a federal gov’t retiree, I will never receive any spousal benefit because Congress years ago stole the benefits of gov’t employees to ’save’ the SS system. Next time don’t say ‘everybody receives benefits’ when they don’t, makes for sloppy reporting!

mike Says:

do members of congress, senate. house of legeslators contribute to s.s? Is it against a government employee’s constituitional right to be subject to a drug test?

Elsie Hutton Says:

Just wondering….. Our Social Security contributions have, over the years, been deposited into accounts in our names, is it not theft to divert the monies in our accounts to fund other uses? That being said, is there a case for a class action suit against Congress for the repayment of the “loans” that have depleated one leg of our retirement stool?

B. Kaplan Says:

The whole PROBLEM to SS is that Congress was charged with dispursing SS. There were no requirements of how to utalize the money collected from those paying in. If congress has purchased annuity’s with that $, then ss would be funded beyond the next century. However, Congress has been using this # as a “private fund” to pay for things not in the budget, but somehow get done.
It might be too late to fix for everyone, but if word really gets out of how SS is screwed up because Congress doesn’t want to fix it. It will take away lots of their PLAY $$$.

Nan Says:

With few exceptions, SS is working about like it was intended when FDR and the New Deal put it together. It is a lifesaver for me — I have worked most of my adult life, except when I was home with small children; but because of the disparity in women’s wages my SS is no where as large as many other older people. I still work part time, and will until I drop. I am lucky to be in good health. Yes, it does seem like SS dis has become a crapshoot. Some really deserving people are denied, while others are receiving on what I consider trivial ailments. Also, the system is overloaded so that many applicants who are eligible for dis, who may even be told by hearing officers that they will receive, are still waiting months or years into the future.

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